Transition The Grove

BCC Active School Travel
Transit Oriented Development

This website is provided for information only, and anyone wanting to ensure they have accurate information should check with the transport providers.

Translink

•  Information on train and ferry timetables, journey planning, route maps, fares, information regarding integrated ticketing and services. 
• Most of South-East Queensland operates on an integrated ticketing system allowing transfer between trains, ferries and buses.
  
• The region is divided into zones, and fare costs are based on the number of zones travelled.

Tickets

Can be purchased from the ticket office at the Ferny Grove Station. This is not open all the time. Hours when the ticket office is staffed are: ???

While it is still possible to purchase day tickets and paper tickets, electronic swipe cards called GoCards are increasingly the norm. These must first be purchased, then have funds loaded on to them. 

GoCards can be purchased, topped up and registered at:

•  Ferny Grove Station (cash payment only, no refunds). 
• Supanews on the Central Concourse at Central Station provides all GoCard services. 
• Supanews at Great Western Super Centre, Keperra provides purchase and top up of GoCards (Cash or EFTPOS) but not registration.
• Ferny Grove News at the Ferny Grove Shopping Village will offer GoCards for purchase from 2010.
  

Destinations

Trains

The level crossing on Samford Rd in Ferny Grove carries the honour of being the 5th most dangerous level crossing in Brisbane. Courier Mail, 3 December 2009, p16.

Ferny Grove line

• For train travel, the Ferny Grove Railway Station is in TransLink Zone 3. 
• 16.1 kms from the CBD Central station.
• The trip takes 30 minutes.
  

Have your say
Community Information Session about Keperra to Ferny Grove Rail Upgrade Concept Design, Ferny Grove Shopping Village. For more information phone 1800 055 618 or email community @trackstar.com.au
Web: www.qr.com.au/seqip  An $100 million Ferny Grove Station upgrade is planned for mid-2010, including rail duplication from Keperra to Ferny Grove, a third platform, and buying the Ferny Grove Tavern for extra commuter parking. Parking capacity will be boosted to about 1000 spaces. (There are currently 666 parking spaces at the Ferny Grove Station.) The bus interchange would be improved, there would be a kiss'n'ride facility, and more bicycle storage. According to Geoff Wilson MP, the project is the biggest investment in the northwest in the past 10 years. The whole objective is to get more people using public transport. Completion is planned for mid-2012.

Alert:  The proposed changes to Ferny Grove Station include purchasing and demolishing the Ferny Grove Tavern, but not replacing it.

Question: What proportions of commuters parking at Ferny Grove Station come from suburbs other than The Grove (for example, Samford Valley, Bunya, Ferny Hills, Arana Hills)?

Train Times

• As a rough guide, trains start from the Ferny Grove Station  from 5.00am on weekdays.
• From 9.28am onwards they are every half hour at 2minutes before the half hour or hour until 3.58pm and from 5.28pm  to10.58pm then hourly to 12.58am (last train). 
  
• During peak in the morning they are more frequent and not on this same schedule, and during peak times in afternoon the train times are different.
  
• Weekend and public holiday timetable differs again. Some evening  trains have guards travelling on them.

• Trains to Ferny Grove from the City start at 5.18am (or 4.10am from Mitchelton station).
  
• The last train from the City leaves at 12.49am and arrives at Ferny Grove at 1.32am.

All trains from Ferny Grove travel through stations at:

•  Keperra
• Grovely
• Oxford Park
• Mitchelton
• Gaythorne 
• Enoggera
• Alderley
• Newmarket
• Wilston, 
• Windsor
• Bowen Hills (platform 1 Ferny Grove to City inbound; platform 2 City to Ferny Grove outbound)
• Brunswick St - Fortitude Valley (platform 1 Ferny Grove to City inbound; platform 2 City to Ferny Grove outbound)
• Central (platform varies - check at station for correct platform)
• Roma St (platform varies - check at station for correct platform). 

From Roma St, trains continue on to various destinations (advise check latest timetable times with Translink):

• Beenleigh - the most common destination. 
• Cleveland (leaves Ferny Grove 6:14am, 6:45am, 7:16am with four returning trains during the afternoon arriving at Ferny Grove at 4:28pm, 5:43pm, 6:26pm, and 6:47pm. One other service from Cleveland terminates at Mitchelton station at 5:18pm. Trains leave Cleveland Station for Ferny Grove at 2.52pm, 4.12pm, 4.51pm, and 5.14pm)
• Kuraby on Beenleigh line (leaves Ferny Grove 4:10pm; a morning service from Kuraby arrives at Ferny Grove at 10.05am)
• Corinda on Ipswich line (take 7:06am from Ferny Grove and transfer to train leaving Mitchelton station at 7:17am.)
• Yeerongpilly then via loop through Tennyson, Sherwood, Graceville & all stations back  to Bowen Hills. Take 7.26am train from Ferny Grove to Mitchelton, then transfer to 8.21am train at Mitchelton.

Bikes on trains:

Permitted on trains outside the hours of 7am to 9.30am (travelling towards the CBD), and 3pm and 6.30pm (travelling away from the CBD).

Parking at Ferny Grove Station

There is a lot of demand on parking at Ferny Grove Station, and it cannot be relied on to get parking for a vehicle once the commuters have filled the car park on weekday mornings.

Facilities at Ferny Grove Station

• Public phone
• Cool drink dispenser
• Snack dispenser
• 2 GoCard machines to top up cards
• GoCard swipe on/ swipe off machines
• Toilets
• Drinking fountain
• Bus depot
• Kiss 'n' ride
• Newspaper kiosk open during commuter hours in morning
• Seats
• Bins
• 2 emergency phones for use in case of assault, injury, vandalism, accidents, fire
• Bike lockers
• Bike racks
  

Train travel to country Queensland or Interstate

•  Rail map of Australia
• Transfers to trains travelling interstate or around Queensland can be made from the Ferny Grove line at the Roma Street Station.

Buses

Translink buses

• Bus travel for The Grove is in TransLink Zone 4.
  
• Passengers transferring to trains at the Ferny Grove Station must pay for an extra zone since Ferny Grove Station is TransLink Zone 3.
  

Connecting bus services at Ferny Grove Railway Station are:

•  Brisbane Transport buses numbers 367 to Upper Kedron going past the Ferny Grove Shopping Village
•   397 and 398 to and from Brookside
• Brisbane Bus Line bus number 399 to Samford & Highvale. 

Route 367 

• Takes 11 minutes to go from Ferny Grove Station to Upper Kedron.
  
• Runs Monday to Friday (not public holidays or weekends).
  
• Connects with trains at Ferny Grove Station
• Primarily a service to get commuters to and from trains, and shoppers to and from Great Western Shopping Centre
  
• Last bus to Upper Kedron leaves 6.58pm.
• First bus to Ferny Grove Station from Upper Kedron leaves 6.15am
  
• Off-peak extension on weekdays to Great Western Shopping Centre from Ferny Grove Station:
  
•  8.53am, 9.22am, 9.51am, 10.20am, 12.08pm, 12.38pm, 1.08pm, 1.38pm, 2.08pm and 2.38pm.
  
• Returns from Great Western Shopping Centre to Ferny Grove Station:
• 9.05am, 9.34am, 10.03am, 11.51am, 12.21pm, 12.51pm, 1.21pm, 1.51pm, 2.21pm and 2.51pm.

Route 397

• Routes 397 and 398 go to and from Brookside Shopping Centre respectively via somewhat different routes.
  
• Route 397 starts from Ferny Grove Station stop 'B'
• Route 397 returns from Brookside Shopping Centre stop 'B'
  
• Route 397 takes 30 minutes to get to Arana Hills K-Mart, then 8 more minutes to get to Brookside.
  
• First 397 bus 6.48am from Ferny Grove Station
• 17 services of 367 bus on weekdays from Ferny Grove Station
  
• 6.48am, 7.16am, 8.02am, 9.03am, 10.03am, 11.03am, 12.03pm, 12.55pm, 1.55pm,3 .20pm, 4.11pm, 4.33pm, 5.00pm, 5.23pm, 5.48pm, 6.12pm, 6.41pm
• During school term 397 starts at Ferny Grove High School at 3.15pm
  
• Last 397 bus 6.41pm from Ferny Grove Station
• Separate timetables for Saturday, and for Sunday and Public Holidays.

 Route 398

• Routes 397 and 398 go to and from Brookside Shopping Centre respectively via somewhat different routes.
  
• Route 398 starts from Ferny Grove Station stop 'B'
• Route 398 returns from Brookside Shopping Centre stop 'B'
  
• Route 398 takes 10 minutes to get to Arana Hills K-Mart, then 10 more minutes to get to Brookside.
  
• First 398 bus 8.23am from Ferny Grove Station
• 11 services of 368 bus on weekdays from Ferny Grove Station
  
• 9.39am, 10.39am, 11.39am, 12.30pm, 1.30pm, 2.30pm, 3.23pm, 4.15pm, 7.29pm, 8.29pm, 9.29pm
  
• During school term 398 starts at Ferny Grove High School at 3.18pm
  
• Last 398 bus 9.29pm from Ferny Grove Station
• Separate timetables for Saturday, and for Sunday and Public Holidays.

Route 399

• Operates as a commuter bus Monday to Friday only
  
• Connects through to Zone 5 from Zone 4
• Trip takes about 40minutes
• Morning buses from Samford Valley connect to trains arriving at Central Station at 7.00am and 7.55am
  
• Samford Valley to Ferny Grove
• 5.50am, 6.50am, 6.01pm, 6.43pm
• Ferny Grove to Samford Valley
• 5.37am, 5.17pm, 5.57pm
• 5.17pm and 5.57pm trains from Central Station connect to afternoon return journeys to Samford Valley.
  

Great Circle Line 598, 599

• Travels in a big circle right around Brisbane to major shopping centres, some hospitals and points of interest.
  
• Passes through Zones 2, 3 and 4.
  
• Full circle takes 3hours 40minutes and crosses 3 zones.
• Connect to the Great Circle Line at Brookside Shopping Centre. 
• 598 goes anti-clockwise from Brookside Stop 'B'. 599 goes clockwise from Stop 'A'.  
• To get to Brookside take bus 397 or 39or take train to Mitchelton station and walk.
  

Destinations and Routes

Route 367 

• Upper Kedron  (McAlroy Rd, McGregor Way, Upper Kedron Rd, Cemetery Rd, Charolais Cres , Canvey Rd)
• Great Western Shopping Centre  (Zone 3)
• Ferny Grove Shopping Village
• Ferny Grove State School
• St Andrews Catholic Primary School
• NorthWest Community Health Centre  (walk from Samford Rd)
• Ferny Grove (Conavalla St, Archdale Rd, McGinn Rd)

Route 397

• Ferny Hills to Arana Hills (Ferny Way, Gordon Rd, Patricks Rd, Caesar Rd, Barber Rd, Tarnook Drive, Woodhills Rd, Hutton Rd, Plucks Rd, View Cres, Bunya Rd, Arlington Drive, South Pine Rd, Plucks Rd, Yanderra Ave, Bingelly St, Patricks Rd)
  
• Arlington Shopping Centre
  
• Bunya House
  
• Arana Hills Library
  
• Arana Hills K-Mart
  
• The Hills PCYC
  
• Everton Park Shopping Centre & Library
  
• Brookside Shopping Centre
  
• Mt Maria Senior College
  
• Brookside bus station
  
• Mitchelton Special School
  
• Centrelink  to Brookside then walk
• Mt Maria Senior College
  
• Arana Hills to Everton Park to Mitchelton (Dawson Pde, Pimelea St, Camelia Ave, Osborne Rd)
  

Route 398

• From Brookside Shopping Centre (Ruby St, Blackwood St, Samford Rd, Dawson Pde, Patricks Rd, Bunora Ave, Dinterra Ave, Kotora Cres, Joalah Cres, Langura Cres, Ferny Way, Arbor St, Conavalla St) to Ferny Grove Station.
  
• Samford Rd (Mitchelton)
  
• Blackwood St
  
• Piccabeen Community Centre
  
• Mitchelton High School
  
• St Williams Catholic Church
  
• St Williams Catholic School
  
• Brisbane North TAFE Grovely Campus
  
• Grovely Primary School
  
• Arana Leagues Club
  
• Arana Hills K-Mart
  
• Anglican Church get off in Patricks Rd and walk
  
• Arana Hills Library get off in Patricks Rd and walk
  
• Ferny Hills Primary School
  
• Ferny Hills Pool
• Patricks Rd Shopping Plaza
  
• Mt Maria Senior College
  

Route 399

• Samford Valley (Mt Glorious Rd cnr Mt O'Reilly Rd)
  
• Highvale (Showgrounds Drive), Westwood Drive, Mount O'Reilly Rd
  
• Samford Village (Mt Glorious Rd cnr Mary Ring Drive)
  
• Ferny Grove Station
• The Samford Valley and Highvale stops are not fixed bus stops.
• Service may be hailed at any point west of Samford Village (no fixed bus stops)
• Fixed bus stops at Mary Ring Drive, Main St, Camp Mountain Rd, Cash Ave, and Ferny Grove Station.
  

Great Circle Line 598, 599 

• Brookside Shopping Centre 
  
• McDowall School 599
• Downfall Creek Environment Centre 599
• Prince Charles Hospital 599
• Rode Rd Stafford Heights 599
• Chermside 599 Stop  'F' Hamilton Rd;  598 Stop 'D'
• Toombul 599
• Gateway TAFE 599
• Cannon Hill 599
• Murrarie 599
• Carindale 599
• Upper Mt Gravatt, Garden City 599
• Sunnybank 599
• QEII Hospital 598
• Rocklea 598
• Sherwood 598
• Chelmer 598
• Graceville 598
• Brisbane Markets 598
• Indooroopilly 598
• Taringa 598
• Toowong 598
• Brisbane Boys College 598
• Mt Coot-tha Botanical Gardens 598
• Stuartholme 598
• Ithaca 598
• Ashgrove 598
• Bardon 598
• Enoggera 598
• Gaythorne 598
• Pickering St 598

School buses

• BCC Active School Travel

Courtesy Buses

• Arana Leagues Club runs an hourly courtesy bus to and from the Club for members. Members should call the club to be collected from their homes.
  

Buses for charter  

• Midi-Bus charter bus service, 2 Monaro Cres. 3351 2647. Looking for drivers with bus licences.

Country & Interstate buses

• Transfers to state wide and interstate bus services can be made from the Brisbane Transfer Centre at the Roma Street Station. 
• Greyhound Australia McCafferty's Coaches

Bicycles

Bicycle Revolution

BCC Cycling in Brisbane

Bicycles on Trains

• Bikes are permitted on trains outside peak hours
• Bikes are not permitted on trains between 7am and 9.30am (travelling from Ferny Grove towards the CBD), and 3pm and 6.30pm (travelling from the CBD to Ferny Grove).

Bicycle parking

• There are bicycle parking lockers available to hire at the Ferny Grove Station but there is a waiting list. Apply at the Station.
  
• Unsecured racks are available but do experience some damage to bikes from time to time.
• Bike parking at shopping centres: Downstairs in car park at Ferny Grove Shopping Village

Bike repair services

Bike clubs

 There are some very keen cyclists in The Grove.

CityCycle

• A Brisbane City Council service
  
• A public bike hire scheme for travel around the inner city.
  
• Bike parking stations in St Lucia, Toowong, Milton, the CBD, West End, South Brisbane, Kangaroo Point, Fortitude Valley, New Farm, and Newstead.
  
• 2000 bikes available for pick up and drop off at up to 150 bike parking stations.
  
• Offers free 30 minute hire for subscribers
• You can take multiple 30 minute rides
  
• Casual users able to use the scheme via a daily access charge
  
• Not currently planned for The Grove
• Connects with the train, bus and ferry, so provides an option instead of taking your own bike into the city.

Cycle2city  provides bicycle facilities in the city for cyclists who commute.

Bikeway maps 

Western Brisbane Transport Network Strategy Projects  This Main Roads projects document is now released. None of the projects seem to directly impact The Grove, but they will bring veloways much closer to The Grove (to Everton Hills) when they are complete.

Wish list: Better cycle access along roads in Ferny Grove and around the Ferny Grove Railway Station.

While some bike paths are available, they are mainly to Upper Kedron, not Ferny Grove.  Roads around the Ferny Grove station are busy and cluttered, and not very safe for bicycle to get through. Better access for bikes to this side of The Grove is needed.

Access through to Samford Village could be improved greatly by a cycle path along the old train-line at the end of Lanita Rd, taking bike traffic off Samford Rd.

Access to the start of bike paths right along Kedron Brook to the sea do not really start until around Brookside. Getting bike paths along Kedron Brook through the golf course area in Keperra would greatly increase the bike facility for The Grove.

A bikeway alongside the Ferny Grove rail line would greatly facilitate cycling to the City.

Walking & Footpaths

• Road design standards have recently been changed to include design for pedestrians and cyclists in an integrated fashion when doing a design for an interchange or road, rather than as an addendum at the back of the standards.
• Main Roads is also now starting to present its future transport planning visions in a priority order which places walking first, then cycling, trains, buses, and only then cars and freight.
• The Grove is hilly, so knowledge about less steep paths, and access routes is valuable.

Where are the walking tracks and access routes in The Grove?

Transport Services for Elderly and Disabled

Brisbane mobility map

View operator specific accessible services for passengers with mobility concerns.

Community Transport Services

• If you are an aged person or a younger person with a disability (or a carer of such a person) and have difficulty accessing public transport or a private vehicle, you could be eligible for community transport services.

Maxi Taxis

• Both Black and White Cabs and Yellow Cabs offer maxi taxis for groups and wheelchair accessible vehicles to all regions in South East Queensland.
• Please note, taxi services are not part of the TransLink network and separate fares apply.
  

Taxi Subsidy Scheme

• operated by Queenslnd Transport Public Transport Division.
  
• It aims to improve the mobility of persons with severe disabilities who are permanent residents of QLD.
  
• This is achieved by providing a 50% concession on the full cost of taxi fares to eligible persons up to a maximum subsidy of $25 per trip.
  
• To be eligible to participate you must have a severe permanent or temporary disability as assessed by Queensland Health.
  
• Scheme membership is approved for a maximum of 5 years, then members must apply to be reassessed.
  
• A temporary membership of an initial 6-12 months may be granted to people with temporary disabilities.
  
• Criteria are:
  
• physical disability requiring dependence on a wheelchair for all mobility outside the home
• severe ambulatory problem that cannot functionally be imporived and restricts walking to an extremely limited distance
  
• total loss of vision or severe visual impairment
  
• severe and uncontrollable epilepsy with seizures involving loss of consciousness
•  intellectual disability resulting in the need to be accompanied by another person at all times for travel on public transport
  
• or severe emotional and/or behaviour disorders with a level of disorganisation resulting in the need to be accompanied by another person at all times for travel on public transport.
  
• Application forms are available from your doctor, the North-West Community Health Centre, or by phoning 3253 4954 or from the webside of the Queensland Transport Taxi Subsidy Section

Council Cabs.

• A service of Brisbane City Council to help people regain their independence, so they no longer need to rely on family and friends to get around. For people who are
  
• over 60, or
• mobility impaired, or
• a Pension Concession card holder, or
• a Centrelink card holder, or
• a carer or minor accompanying someone who is eligible.
• A Council Cab will take you to your local shopping centre from as little as $1.50.
• Book a Council Cab by phoning Yellow Cabs on 13 62 94 and ask for a Council Cab.
• A Council Cab will pick you up from your house in the morning (the operator will give you an approximate time when you book) and take you to the shopping precinct.
• If you want a return service, a Council Cab will take you back home at around lunch time. Simply meet the cab driver at the pick-up and drop-off point at the agreed time.

Ambulances

Queensland Ambulance Service Call 000 . Do not call 000 unless you are in critical need of emergency services (police, fire, ambulance)

Trams

Brisbane Tramways Museum has a large collection of operational trams, running on tramlines. They have the facilities to repair and maintain them, and a power supply.

Horses

We have some in The Grove. Samford has a club for people interested in horses & carriages. Can horses be hired in The Grove? There are quite a few tracks through the Brisbane Forest Park sections of The Grove designated as suitable for horse-riding.

Cars and Motor Vehicles

Car pooling

• BCC Car Pooling in Brisbane
• GoGet Car Sharing
  

Taxis

• Taxi Subsidy Scheme
  
• Council Cabs
  

Mechanical services

Fuel supplies

• BP Ferny Grove, on Samford Rd. (Open 24 hours)

Trucks, tractors, graders, backhoes, heavy machinery

Roads

• Responsibility for roads in The Grove mainly falls to ?Brisbane City Council and some very short parts to Moreton Council.  What about Samford Rd & Mt Nebo Rd? Are there any state or federal road responsibilities? The proposed Samford Valley Sub-Arterial Bypass is in Main Roads Department planning.

• Mt Nebo Rd, at the southern edge of The Grove, is not currently linked to streets in Upper Kedron, but the 'unjoined' distance is very short (only about 1km). A substantial new bridge has now been built across Cedar Creek, bringing this 'unjoined' section even closer. If the join is made, it would make The Gap, Enoggera Reservoir, Brisbane Forest Park, Bellbird Grove, Mt Nebo and Mt Glorious very close and accessible to The Grove.

Wish list: To join roads in The Grove via Upper Kedron to Mt Nebo Rd.

Western Brisbane Transport Network Strategy Projects 

• This Main Roads projects document is now released. None of the projects seem to directly impact The Grove, but they will bring bypass roads and veloways much closer to The Grove (to Everton Hills) when they are complete.

Samford Valley sub-arterial, Samford Valley Road and Samford Valley Connection

• Location of corridor  Samford Valley Sub-Arterial Bypass (proposed)  this runs through the back of Upper Kedron. The land is preserved for this bypass for some time in the future.This corridor runs from Samford Road, Upper Kedron through Camp Mountain and connects to Mt Samson Road at Yugar.

• History

• In the 1970s, significant residential development was predicted in the Samford Valley area.
• This corridor was planned and preserved in the late 1970s and early 1980s as a result of concern over the ability of Samford Road to handle the growth in traffic from this predicted development.
• Corridor preservation was based on current planning standards for a four-lane median-divided road.

• Current status There are no current plans for any projects on this corridor.

• As the corridor was identified and protected many years ago, it needs to be re-evaluated to determine its role in the future transport network. This will be undertaken as part of the Western Brisbane Transport Network Investigation. This study is an investigation to determine the long-term transport needs in the west and north west areas of Brisbane.

• Property acquisition The state government already owns some of the property affected by the corridor. This property was purchased under hardship acquisition provisions, following requests from property owners.

• You can find out more about property acquisitions on the Main Roads' property page , or by emailing www.propertyservices@mainroads.qld.gov.au , or calling +61 1800 806 414.

• More information For more information on the planning of the corridor, please email brisbane.office@mainroads.qld.gov.au or phone +61 7 3137 8258

• Last updated: 14 June 2009
  

South East Queensland Infrastructure Plan and Program 2009-2026

Sustainable Planning Act

Transport Statistics

Motor vehicles in The Grove

• None               79 dwellings         0 motor vehicles
• One               826 dwellings       826 motor vehicles
• Two             1176 dwellings     2352 motor vehicles
• Three             350 dwellings     1050 motor vehicles
• Four or more  153 dwellings       612 motor vehicles
• Total                                        4840 motor vehicles   (approximately 10 vehicles for every 17 people)        

Method of travel to work (some numbers repeated in more than one category)

• Motor vehicle  2948
  • Car   2689
  • Truck    40
  • Motorbike/scooter  53
  • Car and train  133
  • Car and train and other 16
  • Car and bus   4
  • Taxi  13
• Train   753
  • Train alone 550
  • Train and bus  54
  • Train and car  133
  • Train and 2 other methods  16
• Bus   77
  • Bus alone 19
  • Bus and car 4
  • Bus and train  54
• Bicycle   14
• Walked only  64

Work at home  141

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